Firstly, its a design plan for a go cart frame, the company (as far as i know) doesn't produce it (the cart) the examples are all made by customers. Since its a design anyone can build it, and if you want me to i can link you to a website (just google 'Piranha buggy plans' (no quotes) that basically shows you step by step how to do it. Secondly its not copywrited so when you buy the plans, your paying for something thats not even a legal document and its something that if i posted it as the toothed fish buggy but it was the same pictures, it would be totally leagal (not that what this is isnt) its just like paying for limewire. Plus how does paying for a buggy plan from australia help the hobby scene in america? This buggy frame I'm absolutely positive has been around in some variant since there was an off road buggy race league, all they did was put their name on it and charge 80aus for it. If you look up free buggy plans im sure you will find tons of these out there.

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Piranha series III, offroad, mini dune buggy, sandrail, go kart plans on Piranha. The Taipan II Plans are in PDF format & will be posted to you on a CD disc. The Piranha Buggy is an offroad racing buggy designed by Edge specifically to be built by regular people, in their garagesif edge piranha buggy plans download links are externally hosted on Extabit, Rapidshare, Rapidgator, Netload, Uploaded and edge piranha buggy plans also directly available.

Also they are actually charging for plans on a single A arm suspension.im sorry but thats crookery. Quote: The Piranha is a Bad A__ Kart, I`m planing on building mine along its structure with a few others incorporated into my version of a smaller size for smaller motors, it benefits all others giving more options for a cheaper kart more can afford to build, I`ve got about $ 500 in parts now and need about another $ 200 in parts to build mine, better than paying $ 2500+,, I think the newer Piranha`s have a updated rear suspension thing going on, Bill see that? Those alterations?

Thats exactly what hobbying is all about, now if we all charge for ideas, how would anything new ever come out? Get idea's from pics. Perhaps a mod could step in-or does the site have legal indemnity for things like this? I'd hate to see diygokarts.com sued because of something its users are posting. I would at the very least refrain from uploading to rapidshare. Git force apply patch. If you have to share it, email it. If you just want ideas, look at pictures and sketch.

Ya see thats what I`ve done, I`ve searched all forums, pics, Youtube and advice from people on drivetrain, frames, rollbars, I`ve sat on the ground and measured my own frame out, decided on a suspension to use and a motor, all my own choice, now if thats copywriting then were all in trouble, everybody does it to some extent,,???? I do think though that it would be best to not post the plans,, somehow there has to be a Copywrite in place in fine print, if individuals wanted plans from him it would probably be best to have him mail them to the said individual, that way the forum would not be involved???? I host several automotive/hobby/fabrication lists and run into this all the time. A member purchases a set of plans, a valuable document, or an instruction manual that's only available for purchase from the vendor, then uploads it somewhere and makes the link available to the group. I kill the post and warn the sender the first time.

I ban them for 30 days the second time. Then, on the third time, I ban them for life. Not because I don't welcome sharing of information to learn, but because about a decade ago we were discussing something very specific and one list member happened to work for the company that produces that specific thing. That list member decided it was 'cool' to offer to everyone a 200 page PDF and about 300 megs worth of autocad DXF files that described this specific thing to the point where anyone of us with a milling machine and a lathe could make one, and not spend the vast dollars this list member's employer would charge for it. Apparently that list member's employer monitors all emails, saw the offer, and terminated that employee then came after me because my technical list 'aided in the distribution of company secrets and proprietary internal documentation'. That company eventually dropped it when they found out I had banned the list member and it was against list policy to forward anything that's copywrited to the list.